The podcast world is full of great pairs, like the Doughboys or any two of the McElroy brothers you prefer, but they are about to be outperformed by the latest podcasting duo: Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen. According to CNN, the two are working with Spotify on Renegades: born in the USA, a new podcast from the producer Higher Ground by Barack and Michelle Obama. The podcast, part of a larger partnership between Spotify and Higher Ground, will be about Obama and Springsteen discussing “masculinity, race, fatherhood and their professional and personal journeys”, with – we can only guess – some time set aside to talk about bad films and promoting the benefits of, ah, say, Quip electric toothbrushes, ZipRecruiter and one of those mattresses that comes in a box the size of a minibar.
Renegades: born in the USA will consist of eight episodes, the first two of which are already available on Spotify. There’s also a trailer, which you can see below, and if you’re the type of person who gets emotional when older men really open up and talk about their feelings … you can skip this one. Powerful “call your dad” energy.