Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen have an absurd but adorable podcast setup.

America’s parents salivated directly in their quarter-zipper pullovers on Monday when Spotify released the first two episodes of “Renegades: Born in the USA”, a new podcast by Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen. That’s right: the father of the jeans and the sexy-naughty jeans took their respective jeans to a recording studio and established what Spotify calls “a series of conversations … about their lives, music and lasting love for America – despite of all your challenges. ”That phrase seems to suggest that Obama will talk about your music, in addition to Springsteen – an exciting but unlikely implication that is not exactly disproved by the show’s promotional photo.

I have no real desire to listen to this podcast – Obama has been the most listened to guy in the world for at least eight years, and I’m not sure what else Springsteen can tell me about how much he loves America – but I have an irrepressible need to look for this photo for at least an entire hour, maybe more. There is so much to love here: the power poses of the mirror image. The opulent variety of drinks. The sparkling vibraphone in the background, presumably foreshadowing the moment on the podcast when Obama decides to pick up a sledgehammer and improvise a frightening and uniquely American melody.

Let’s leave the biggest photo reveal out of the way: are these men touching their toes? Or are your feet supported on different parts of the same table leg – which, due to the transitive property of the male-bonded furniture, would still constitute a variety of feet? Either way, co-hosts are speaking high-level body language with native fluency. The crossed arms signify emotional detachment, while the toes seek intimacy. They can also drop the conversation about their strained relationships with masculinity that is sparked in the series trailer. Her booties said everything there was to say.

On other topics, however, Obama and Springsteen have a little more “divisions to do”. As a humble podcaster, I was surprised to see the men talking casually in a cavernous room lined with windows. Are the rest of us courting spinal injuries and eye strain from taping into tight fortresses and dark cabinets? Supposedly, a tight space offers a marginal improvement in audio quality. Could I have recorded my personal guitar and organ storage space all this time?

This constraint on wealth extends to the drinks offered in the recording session of “Renegades”. Obama is portrayed enjoying at least three different drinks: something in a mug, something in a glass and something in an isolated cup. We can assume that none of their drinks are dairy-based, unless the privilege of the ultra-rich podcast extends to throats without phlegm, then coffee, iced tea and … vegan hot chocolate? A cooled (heated ??) juice? Each host also has his own private bottle of what appears to be water – but, judging by the shape of the bottles, it could easily be Patrón. In other words, Obama’s display of drinks – a little caffeine, a little sugar, some antioxidants and, just speculating, an entire bottle of tequila – exists in the precise nexus between relatable and aspirational. It is tailor-made for the audience of a meditative podcast about life, love and the “unlikely friendship” between two of America’s richest and most famous boomer men.

Finally, “Renegades” is heralded as a series of casual chats, but these hosts came prepared for the conversation. I count two phones, a tablet, a laptop, a notebook, a notepad and a sturdy pack of papers on his desk, a visual representation of the often invisible work that involves making an improvised audio production. It is even more invigorating to see Springsteen in white jeans. He no longer needs ragged, dirt-stained jeans. He is not contemplating the concept of national unity while running his fingers over American soil. He is sitting in his home studio, talking about his childhood with a former president in leather boots, drinking from his bottle and cashing Spotify checks as they enter. The humble podcaster’s dream!