With her future on “The Talk” uncertain, Sharon Osbourne said in an interview on Tuesday that she apologized to Sheryl Underwood, her co-host on the daytime TV show, but did not have an answer.
However, Underwood has already talked in his podcast about what happened on last Wednesday’s show, when Osbourne exploded during a conversation about racism. And Underwood looked very Zen about what had happened and how she handled her part of it.
“I thought I was talking to colleagues and I thought we were having a great conversation,” said Underwood at the end of last week on his podcast, “The world according to Sheryl.” “It wasn’t that good, part of it.”
“The Talk” has been on a hiatus since the beginning of the week, while CBS investigates the situation that broke out live on the air.
57-year-old Underwood, who served as moderator at the CBS roundtable while introducing Carrie Ann Inaba is sick, addressed the Osbourne explosion in the Friday and Saturday episodes of his podcast. Most of the bullshit fell on the second day of the two-part discussion.
“The vibe to me was that it was already forgiven and ended as soon as it was said,” said Underwood when asked about the atmosphere on the set after Osbourne, 68, was asked about his friend Piers Morgan.
Osbourne had supported his former colleague “America’s Got Talent” after he destroyed former Meghan Markle and said he doubted her claims during the Duchess and Prince Harry’s recent interview with Oprah Winfrey. Morgan left “Good Morning Britain”, which he co-hosted on March 9, after leaving the set in the middle of a conversation with colleague Alex Beresford, who was later hailed as an ally of Meghan.
Underwood, who joined “The Talk” in 2011, said he felt no tension in the room after the lively conversation ended, but he could not speak for what Osbourne had experienced.
Osbourne was extremely emotional during Wednesday’s conversation, coming close to tears and, according to Underwood, throwing F bombs when the show went on the commercial. After the break, Osbourne exploded, saying, “I feel … like I’m about to be put in the electric chair because I have a friend that many people think is racist, so that makes me a racist. And for me, at 68, having to turn around and say, ‘I’m not a racist.’ … How can I be racist about someone or something in my life? How can I?”
Osbourne told “Entertainment Tonight” on Tuesday that she felt she had been screwed.
Underwood said that as a moderator, she wanted to project stability. “During the commercial break, especially when you’re moderating, there are producers and technicians in your ear saying what’s coming,” said the comic and the actress, so she didn’t really understand what Osbourne was saying to her in Tempo .
“I think there was some anxiety,” she added. “I think there was a little bit of stress and everything, but for me, I was more like, ‘OK, I have a certain time to go to the dentist’”, a consultation she had scheduled for after “The Talk” recording . She also said that she was thinking about taking a nap.
Underwood said her phone was exploding when she went back to the dressing room, but she was excited about what she saw on social media. Sure, there was criticism and negativity, but she said that most of the conversations she saw – among all types of people – were encouraging.
“Everyone was saying, ‘Sheryl: Grace. Discipline. Restriction. ‘And talking about what would have happened if the roles were reversed, ”said Underwood. She also noted, “There are things going on that I have no control over. I couldn’t stop them if I wanted to. I didn’t start. I can not stop. All I can do is be ready for what God is telling me to do. “
When she went to sleep on Wednesday night, Underwood said, she kept thinking, “Sheryl, if God allows your eyes to open, go back to work tomorrow. Don’t come back any different. So you hurt. So you are disappointed. Manage that. Manage your expectations. “
But she was also relieved.
“I had a good night’s sleep. I slept well, because I didn’t do anything to anyone. I didn’t do anything, ”she said. “And I was a good friend. No matter what came my way, I was a good friend. And I also stayed out of things ”.
This was not, she said, the hill where she chose to die.
Underwood said Osbourne asked to speak to her after the show, but gave no details as to whether the conversation really took place. If that happened, she would not reveal any details.
But she said she hesitated a little and then moved on.
“I always said, Sheryl, this is entertainment, this is television, it is daytime television. You want to keep this program on the air for another 10 years, because you believe it has legs. You believe it can happen, ”she said. “And people go through things on the programs all the time. … So I kept thinking to myself, let it happen. But don’t be different. Don’t put yourself in a different posture. You cannot wear the crown with your head down. “
Osbourne, by contrast, said on Tuesday that he did not know whether he would return to the show or whether it was “wanted there”.
Overall, Underwood said she was in a good place and filled with “spiritual food” from all the support she obtained in the aftermath of the dispute. She said the general word was that she represented blacks well.
“My mantra, my way of thinking, is always forgiveness first and, next to that, is an apology,” she said. “These two things go together. I don’t know what’s in Sharon’s heart. I don’t know what she’s feeling. The only feelings I can control … are mine. “